Yeah. I think? [kavinsky lapses into a brief, thoughtful pause.] I mean I think Vex was just fucking born that way. Raf, though.

[he looks up at the older man for a moment, once-overing his white hair and crows feet briefly.]

But don't be too self-loathing, [he suggests.] You can kind of pull it off.

[high flattery from joseph kavinsky. you're welcome.]